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Reaction Post for Heroes: “Four Months Later”



(Warning Spoilers for episode one of season2!)


Sorry it has taken me so long to post this.  I am even now still trying to take it all in.  I cannot hope to cover the whole episode in its entirety, but here are a few items that really caught my attention and sparked questions with the first and subsequent viewings (yes, I have viewed and re-viewed it and every time I notice something else):


For starters, I noticed the torn picture of which both Kaito Nakamura and Angela Petrelli have a piece of was a photo that was taken on the roof of the Deveaux Building.  While I did notice that the coop was still there when Kaito went up there with Ando, and had snow on its roof, I did notice a lack of pigeons.  None were heard and none were flying about either, although they had been when Ando and Hiro were up there upon their return from the future.   I’m wondering If Kaito had an ability beyond his sword fighting skill. Also, Kaito knew his assailant despite the disguise.  My impression is of a reasonably fit white male based on build, action and the hands which were the only visible skin.  Granted, it could have been a female under all that but I don’t find that likely.  And I also do not think it was Claude (regardless of how much I miss him).


I also don’t think Kaito’s assailant was Claude because:

1) Wrong build

2)  Why would Claude wait 7 years for revenge on Primatech/OWI/the Company and then start by going after Kaito?

3)  Claude would not have survived knocking Kaito off the roof like that, and when the camera cuts to the ground, Kaito is alone

4)  Kaito said that the death threats had come from “someone who had helped found the Company 30 years ago.”  Claude would have only been about 13 at that time (assuming that Claude is close to or the same age as Christopher Eccleston).  Would Claude have even manifested by that time?


Personally, I think Kaito’s killer=Molly’s Nightmare man.

I also am wondering why Molly was so hesitant to talk about her nightmare with Matt, her “hero.”  Did she fear that doing so would put him at risk?  I also find it interesting that Matt and Mohinder are sharing a place as well as custody of Molly and that Matt is now a Police Detective, at last.


I’m wondering what Hiro is going to do to “fix history.”


Regarding Nathan, at least I have now confirmed what a dream caused me to suspect: that someone close to Peter would become an alcoholic over the winter.  What puzzles me is Nathan’s reflection in the barroom mirror.  Was he seeing a hallucination, his true self, or what he assumes Peter looks like now?


As for Peter, it looks like he’s got a new power (or his TK has gotten flashier).  His necklace looks an awful lot like the Haitian’s and he now has severe amnesia, and I have to wonder if it was trauma or if the Haitian mind wiped him.  I also have to wonder who sent him to Cork, Ireland and why.  (I do know the area a bit, my godmother lives there in Ballincollig, County Cork, just outside of Cork City.  Nice place.)


The scenes of Claire and HRG breaking their cover, just a bit were amusing.  There is a lot to be said for Nurture vs. Nature.  I find it interesting that HRG and Mohinder are in contact (and conspiring) and that Claire still has Nathan’s cell number.


Then there is West.  I am wondering why he can fly.  So far, barring Peter who can mimic anyone, Nathan has been the only flyer.  I doubt it is a coincidence and I have to wonder if West may also be a relative of Nathan, or maybe a younger clone.  He also reminds me a lot of Jeff East who played the young Clark Kent in the Christopher Reeve Superman the Movie.  Will there be more powers that repeat and what is the reason for it if they do?


The bald man with the glasses and the “Midas” gift, who contacted Mohinder, is probably a founding member of the Company.  He seems old enough and judging by Kaito’s comments to Angela that makes a total of 12 founders and would leave 6 unaccounted for.


For every question that is answered, several more rise to take the place.  I am amazed at what the whole Heroes team has thus far come up with and I can’t wait for more.


Though I still have to say, as much as I enjoyed watching and re-watching and thinking about what went on in “Four Months Later,”

I really miss Claude! 

And, if, just for a moment, I could be “fangirly,” I would just like to weigh in, in that respect as well.


I know a great deal of fans have called the fact that Peter showed up shirtless and chained up a “dream of fangirls.”  Well, not this fangirl.


Don’t get me wrong.  I do like Peter and yes, he’s easy on the eyes, but I’m not a huge fan of bondage.  It was Claude, who stole my heart.  Here’s what this fangirl would like to see:  Claude waking up, shirtless in a warm, safe, comfortable place.  No chains, no running and free to go at any time, and maybe, just maybe, someone to wait on him hand and foot… I’d do it… even if he was grumpy :) Just a thought.



( 28 comments — Leave a comment )
Sep. 27th, 2007 03:23 pm (UTC)
I too noticed the lack of our pigeon friends and did weep..I miss Claude..I did enjoy Peter shirtless :D but when i think about Killer Hoodie dude..i think it's a chick..short..and girly hands..
Sep. 27th, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC)
Maybe, but the hands didn't look all that girly to me
Sep. 27th, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
I just watched it again and the hands aren't girly..but they do look familiar..My mom keeps harping that it's Peter but I don't think so..
Sep. 27th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
I didn't think that was Peter either. It has to be a founding Company member.
Sep. 27th, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
i'm really excited about this new plot line..i can't wait to see Angela die!!
Sep. 27th, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
re: Angela
The more I see her, the less I like her.
Sep. 27th, 2007 10:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Angela
I KNOW! I wanna hit her in the face..with a shovel..
Sep. 28th, 2007 12:17 pm (UTC)
Re: Angela
I gotta wonder if that's how she'll go out. One can hope...
Sep. 28th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
Re: Angela
I hope she does! I hope she gets hit in the face with a shovel...Or some one cuts the wires in her elevator..and she plummets to her death..
Sep. 27th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
I thought where is the pigeons too..(((
Claude stole our hearts..hearts of all his funs...
and now i want to be a pigeon in Claude`s hands..
Sep. 27th, 2007 03:32 pm (UTC)
I thought where is the pigeons too.

Maybe Claude took them with him?

and now i want to be a pigeon in Claude`s hands..

you and me both!
Sep. 27th, 2007 03:55 pm (UTC)
Maybe Claude took them with him?
Claude returned ?.. scarcely!He wat afraid and scarcely he thought about his "pets"

you and me both!
Because we love him and miss him!Because He carried off our hearts and bears with him
Sep. 27th, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
the missing Pigeons
I know Claude was scared when Bennet found him. I would be too. The last time Bennet just tried to kill him, this time he'd tasered him, and Claude knows exactly what the Company does with those it captures and decides are "dangerous." I'm wondering if he went back for them later, as this episode is set 4 months later from when Peter went "boom," and after Claude had run out of Peter's flat.
Sep. 28th, 2007 05:40 pm (UTC)
Re: the missing Pigeons
I would not return. What for? Fear is strong emotion.. Especially fear of death or fear of........how call it?
Sep. 29th, 2007 02:07 am (UTC)
Re: "How you call it"
You mean fear of the unknown? Maybe. Maybe you are right, but if so, where did the pigeons go? They were there when Hiro and Ando returned from the future.
Sep. 29th, 2007 12:50 pm (UTC)
Re: "How you call it"
I understand what to hold animals on a set dearly but why they have not worked to explain as pigeons have disappeared?! The imagination has terminated?? Had laziness?*angry*
Similar it is the next obscure riddle.. Or a film-mistake
Sep. 29th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Pigeons
The Coop seemed to be open when Hiro and Ando were up there... Maybe they flew away? If Claude wasn't around to feed them, they may have all gone off to forage on their own.
Sep. 29th, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC)
Re: Pigeons
feed the pigeons-save the world :D
Maybe they flew..Allright.one question..Who has Dismantled a Coop?
Sep. 29th, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
Re: the coop
It looked intact to me, just looked like someone moved it a bit
Oct. 2nd, 2007 05:34 am (UTC)
This isn't about your review of the Heroes premiere, but I was just wondering where I met you? I just noticed you on my friends list. I do know that I received a email alert telling me you replied to one of my comments, but I think I accidentally deleted it (was having a mass email delete of my inbox). Let me know where we met, and I'll be happy to keep you as a friend :D
Oct. 2nd, 2007 12:30 pm (UTC)
I first saw you over in the heroes_icons community having much the same reaction to some icons as myself and it seemed like we had a few things in common when I looked at your profile. If you want to friend back cool. If not that's fine, too.
Oct. 2nd, 2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
No, no, no, I'd love to friend you back! It's so rare to find someone who shares the same opinion on slash as I do! I just didn't remember where we met. I'm ditzy like that ;)

Friended you back! Now I have to hurry and get ready for work.
Oct. 2nd, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
And like you said, we have a few other things in common also :)
Oct. 4th, 2007 01:26 am (UTC)
well the iconmaker went and deleted our last thread. What really galls me is I'm sick of seeing slash and yet my f-list is getting spammed. It also bugs me that if I made a gen/het com the slash fans would complain. I'm half tempted to try anyway, just because I'm sick of wading through all this slash just to get to general and canon stuff. They have their sanctuaries, why can't those of us who don't like that stuff have one?
Oct. 4th, 2007 05:05 am (UTC)
Re: *Grumbles*
LOL ... Good lord.

Guess the poor little slasher couldn't take opinions that were different than hers. Slash fans are some of the biggest hypocrites in the world. Really, they are all just a bunch of heterophobes. At least that's my term for them. Since every time I speak against slash I'm labeled a homophobe or gay basher. Both which couldn't be farther from the truth. I guess you and me are some of the few left that actually watch shows for the storyline, and not to see how many guys we can pair with each other.

I've seen het communities, the very few that there are, invaded by petty slashers. I even used to have anti-slash icons, such as anti-Nathan/Peter and Mohinder/Sylar, and I got harassed for that. Amazing how they can flaunt their ridiculous slash icons, but heaven forbid we announce that we DON'T like it. I wish slashers wouldn't think that by liking male/male pairings, they are an advocate for gay rights. It's porn that gets them off, if they just admitted that, then I'd be at least a bit satisfied.

..sorry for going off on that tangent. My bad. Slash just pisses me off...
Oct. 4th, 2007 03:08 pm (UTC)
Re: *Grumbles*
Nah, that's ok... I know the feeling. I usually play DOOM to vent. What confuses me is supposedly a lot of these writers and fans are het girls but they read/write all this M/M stuff. You think they rather read/write a het pairing. And some of it reads like RAPE!!!!! I really don't get it. And if it's Claude related... I have a really bad reaction! I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I identify a lot with Claude on some levels and to a lesser extent, Peter.

I don't need fanfic stories to excite me, just totally innocent pics of Claude. All Claude need do is be in it... he smiles, I'm lost :) I only started posting my smutty het fics to get the nasty images out of my head. Like mental floss only more fun.
Oct. 6th, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
Re: *Grumbles*
EXACTLY!!! These girls are straight themselves, yet they act as if male/female relationships are, "eww icky". I just don't understand that thinking. Also, if I'm attracted to a guy, I fantasize MYSELF with him, not another guy...

What's unbelievable is that I got into that new show on NBC, Chuck, and there is already slash about!!! WTF?! There has only been two episodes! Watch these damn shows for the storyline, not just to pair male A with male B...
Oct. 6th, 2007 01:58 am (UTC)
Re: *Grumbles*
What also galls me is if you tell these people, these girls, that "sorry I don't want to see that" or "It's just fan fic" or "This really bothers me; please post a warning lable" they get all hiffy and try to tell you "OH NO, It's canon," or that it's all in the subtext or that there's something wrong with you for not seeing it. That Icon maker had a hell of a nerve. I don't tell people what to like, so where do they get off telling me how to watch? If anything THEY are the ones being disrespectful.

And my roomate agrees. He says they probaly see 6 cute male extras in the background and write a fic about them having an orgy, just because they could do it, even if the same 6 had no such canon actions at all.
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