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Things I really don't understand

There's a lot puzzling me lately.  I'll start with the simple stuff.  I don't understand why it is that people talking with me online assume I'm British.  While I do have English heritage I was born on and live on the other side of the Pond.  When I tell folks that I'm an American, some stop talking to me.  I don't get it.  Am I suddenly uncool because I'm not a Brit?  I'm still the same person they were talking to before.   Also, I've found in real life that folks tend to trust me, a lot .  I'm a total stranger and they will let me hold their place in line, look after items, and even tell me secrets.  While I don't mind I still don't get why this is.

Another thing I don't get, and  I think I missed a meeting or something, as I've noticed a sudden upsurge in fic with one of Christopher Eccleston's Characters, whether it be Nine or Claude, being paired or partnered with Donna Noble or someone like her.  Even a young child dressed as the TARDIS informed me that she was transporting Nine and Donna.  Were Chris and Catherine in a movie or something and I missed it?  I'll be honest that when I saw "Runaway Bride" I didn't like Donna at all.  I wanted the Racknos to eat her.  Then, later when she became Ten's official companion in series 4, I really liked her.  But I still don't get this pairing an Eccleston character with a Tate character trend.

And then there's this other tendency in fic I don't get.  We see Claude steal ONE BEER from Peter back in Heroes season one's "The Fix."  It's just one beer, not a sixpack, not a bottle of Vodka, Cognac, burbon etc, ONE BEER.  Now a ton of folks write him written as a drunk or an alcoholic.  While I'm sure Claude probably can hold his alcohol, and the concept of him as a total drunk works well for parody, I somehow doubt he'd get quite so wasted constantly.  After all he did survive 7 years in hiding while being pursued by the Company.  He stole a pretzel too but no one does anything with that.  Claude also stole a scarf and a cellphone (mobile) and again nothing is done with that.  And yet Claude shakes hands with one character, gives another a warm look and suddenly there's boatloads of fic where he's sleeping with these characters!  So is the rule: "Well these two male characters are attractive and know each other so we'll slashfic ship them?"

And now to clear somethings up.

I'm not Anti-gay, Anti-Slash, homophobic, heterophobic or anyother lable you care to throw at me.  What I am is damaged.  What I am is a victim and survivor of some nasty stuff.  You want details?  Read some of my other recent entries.  It's not just certain slash I take great pains to avoid.  It's also some hetfic with certain activities going on in it.  In some respects, as it's het and not slash and therefore closer to what I went through, it's worse than the slash I try to avoid.  And as I pointed out in another entry, one of the causes I got involved with was "No on Proposition 8" which sadly was passed.  I hope, for sake of all those who were married and those who would like to be, that it can be overturned.  Why do lawmakers have to limit love?

Also, I'm a large woman with short hair and a bit of a clumsy tomboy.  But do us both a favor and don't think that any of those traits necessarily make me anything else.  If you want to know something ask and I may tell you quite a bit in answer.

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jocoses
Jan. 21st, 2009 08:20 am (UTC)
When you say talking on line do you mean actually talking or typing talking (if you know what I mean)?

Think I may be as puzzled as you are, I thought that was the point of the internet? Well okay not originally *cough* but to me its a way of connecting with people you never would, where they live doesnt have anything to do with it. Like the old joke: you go on holiday to Outer Mongolia get on really well with a fellow traveller and it turns out they live round the corner from you and you never met.

Not aware of Chris and Catherine working together- unless its because of the Doctor Who Christmas special? And thats tentative at best but its the only thing I can think of.

I've not read any of the fics you referred to but from what you say seems a bit of a leap from one bottle to raving alcoholic!
I mean I can see him gargling with the stuff, splashing it over him and lurching in pretending he's drunk in order to get something or somewhere he wants to be, but actually drunk nope. Would have put him down as too distrusting of other people to make himself vulnerable in that way.
bigbadwolfeboro
Jan. 21st, 2009 08:43 am (UTC)
I mean text conversations online like this one.

What's funny is I met a bunch of folks from 9th Wonders when I took a trip to New York. These folks I'd only ever chatted with before on the 9th Wonders BBoards. When I mentioned my handle over there they were like "Oh I know you you're the big Claude person."

And me neither for those two working together. I've had google alerts on for nearly a year now and am a member of several Chris Eccleston fan sites, some whom have very good info on his potential and new projects. None of them mention him working with Cathrine Tate. While I'm certainly not adverse to the idea I still don't get this sudden upsurge in pairing those two in fics whether it be Nine with Donna or Claude with someone like Donna.

And even if Claude likes to get a bit trashed once in a while, he couldn't be wasted all the time as getting that drunk kills braincells and wrecks your response time and to Claude's credit he did manage to avoid the Company for 7 years, at least until Peter showed up. Then he was in the clear until Elle tracked him down again. So while I can buy that Claude nicks beers and other stuff, I'm sure he's careful about it. The funny thing is Claude stole other stuff and no one does anything with that. What's he doing with the cash he nicks? Or the scarf? He pockets the pretzel. Does he eat it or does he feed the pigeons with it? And just who is he gonna call with the mobile phone? Or is he gonna trade that somewhere? Or how about the fact that he waited 7+ years to go back to the UK? There's plenty of his story that's unexplored. If canon is gonna ignore that I wish some of the fic writers would try to work with what we have. Proper general fic would be fine. I know one did, just a bit, but to be honest it was really slash fic in disguise and had a Donna like character in it too.

Edited at 2009-01-21 08:45 am (UTC)
jocoses
Jan. 21st, 2009 12:40 pm (UTC)
Well on the Tate link there is one very very tentative one that did just occur to me (dont laugh) Chris is doing that competition for the Tate modern where he reads the winning fiction competition entries as an mp3?

I suspect that some of it could be simply mixing up the Doctors.There was something I saw a while back that said that Claude was born in Blackpool (not that I'm complaining *cough*)but I suspect its someone googling and getting info for David Tennant as well because of the Who links they both have. David Tennant was the one in the Blackpool tv series, I suspect they were looking for in-jokes for Chris and didnt read the article properly.

The amount of actual information on Claude is sparse as far as the tv prog goes but I agree there does seem to have been a lot of fanfic things that dont seem as if they will fit.

Wonder why they decided to send him to London? Or was that a way of trying to get Chris back? Suppose they would have to borrow a HD crew if they did that though. Interesting thought Aunty Beeb has one in Cardiff wonder if they could borrow that one? LOL now that would be interesting!

Claude nicking stuff *shrugs* presume he could fence the phone but never got the impression that he had a lot of need for money seemed to just erm borrow what he wanted at least food (and definitely clothes wise).
bigbadwolfeboro
Jan. 21st, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
I think I heard about that and while I don't have anything set in 2058 to submit I would love to get the finished MP3.

Claude being born in Blackpool is on his official Company profile and his birthdate is given as 2/2/1964.

While I know fanfic is just for fun, it does bug me a bit when things just really don't fit a character.


I'd wondered about why London for the GN. The story, the art, the colors, the scenery was Fantastic, but I'm trying to work out why Claude waited so long to go back to even the UK. You notice it's London and not Blackpool or even Manchester. Actual real on location filming could be amusing (as opposed to set claiming to be London and it's really LA or perhaps Vancouver) though I dunno if NBC would spring for it.

Well I've just started working on a fic, and I'm trying to avoid OC's in it to at least answer the questions of how Claude survived getting shot and why he stayed away from the UK so long. There has to be something to the first at least, otherwise the behind the Eclipse folks would have answered me when I'd asked. Moreover they won't tell me whom Claude got shot for hiding. I'd been leaning towards Meredith until the Villains episode aired and events there, most telling Meredith becoming and agent, seem to negate this possibility. I have to wonder if Claire hadn't manifested sooner than we've been shown, plus there's the fact of how many times Claude mentions her prior to Noah shooting him. And Abigail in the GN could be a relation to Claude. I don't care for the fic that someone had her falling for Claude. It's clear she's with Lee (and their real life counterparts are in fact engaged). I also don't get the prevalence of Claude being written as gay. Neither non screen nor in the GN's has Claude really gotten that close to anyone, neither male nor female. When I run him I play him as disinterested. After what he's seen and lived through I think he'd be wary of anyone. As for the het fic I've written, it's mental floss for me and no I don't find it easy to write those either as I do try to stick to character. The one serious one I wrote, the person Claude is with is an OC and she's quite damaged herself.

Edited at 2009-01-21 02:28 pm (UTC)
jocoses
Jan. 21st, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
Sounds interesting :)
bigbadwolfeboro
Jan. 21st, 2009 02:29 pm (UTC)
If I get the fic done and it looks decent enough, I'll post it.
jocoses
Jan. 21st, 2009 03:07 pm (UTC)
Look forward to it.

Well Aunty is cash strapped (as is everyone else) but there were rumours that they wanted to do some Doctor Who filming stateside (no idea how accurate that was *shrugs*) but... they could presumably use each others crews? Heroes in London and BBC in the U.S. then they both get what they want without having to ship over their own crews- has to be cheaper?

I did think Claude was connected to the Haitian for some reason. Also bit suspicious of him getting out of the car so willingly I mean I would have expected him to sit tight and say stuff you you want to shoot me go ahead- it'll ruin your upholstery. Don't think it was Claire he was protecting somehow. Did get the feeling that he knew more about Peter than he was letting on though. I did wonder if he was wearing a bullet proof vest though.
bigbadwolfeboro
Jan. 21st, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
I know the Haitian has some connection with Angela. Maybe it's just me but the Haitian looks pissed off when Bennet tells him he's going home to look after Sandra and "Claude will have to wait" in Unexpected. As for Claude getting out of the car, I think he was in denial right up until he get shot and then it's like a state of shock. As much as I'd have liked Claude to have been wearing a bullet proof vest, even allowing that it was one with blood packets, I don't see him fitting and properly concealing one under the shirt he was wearing (it's a bit transparent), plus the shirt rode up and I could see his skin. But I think Claude did know more about Peter than he told Peter.

Edited at 2009-01-21 03:32 pm (UTC)
jocoses
Jan. 21st, 2009 06:01 pm (UTC)
Think youre probably right about the jacket,hadnt noticed that, but I just have always had a feeling that there was something that didn't ring true about what happened at that bridge and I've never been able to put my finger on what it was.

I think what I find hardest to believe is that the company sent HRG to deal with his own partner but didn't do anything to check up on what he was doing and that makes no sense. No-one in the Company seemed to trust anyone else, least of all the operatives up the sharp end.

Hohum *shrugs* expect if they ever get Claude back or go into any detail about things it will come out eventually.
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