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         You ever get that damned if you do damned if you don't feeling?  That's how I feel right now.  I'm starting to think the term for me is "hopeless het," if I understand current online terminology correctly.  Now, I have a lot of friends online and IRL who like slash, and maybe even are involved in RL relationships of that variety.  I didn't used to bother me.  I know that there are several sites with tons of fic that "ship" the Doctor and Jack.  Let's face it, Jack will go for nearly anyone!  While I'm not big into it, being that I'm a girl and "het,"  I will occasionally read these, particularly if it's one a friend has written.  I used to think of myself as open minded.  Then all the Heroes slash type coms started up and people began talking about shipping Peter/Claude and even Bennet/Claude.  Now, while I think it's great that folks can have coms like that to be free and express their creativity, and also have an easier time finding what interests them, I'm starting to feel a bit shut out myself.  I have nothing against slashers or folks with their own concepts of an OTP.  Write about / dream about whatever makes you happy.  Just don't expect me to give up my dreams.  I don't expect you to give up yours.

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runningondreams
Apr. 15th, 2007 07:49 pm (UTC)
Do you really feel like we're pressureing you? 'cause we really aren't meaning to, especially on the RPG thing. fantasticpants and I can keep the slash to a minimum- we can always talk to each other about it without bothering anyone else, and as you said, there are specific communities for such things.
The problem with Heroes is that there aren't a lot of really likable female characters to 'ship the pretty boys with. I really like Bennet&Sandra (should probably go add that, actually), but other than that I just don't see it (well, Nikki&DL, but Nikki's so screwed up that I really don't want to tough that). *shrug*

Do you want to ship Claude with someone?
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 15th, 2007 08:40 pm (UTC)
Do you really feel like we're pressureing you?

Not so much you and fantasticpants (everyone's gotta have a dream right?) but when one of the mods started in, I did start to feel pressured.


Do you want to ship Claude with someone?

Not really...from what I've seen of Claude presently, I think he'd avoid that like the plague. Hell, the closest thing I've seen that Claude has to a friend is/was Peter, and he threw him off a building! Then Bennet showed up and he split "We? You watch your own back! I do what I always do, disappear." even after Peter said about possibly exploding "Then I guess you go boom."
runningondreams
Apr. 15th, 2007 08:51 pm (UTC)
I'd agree with Claude not really wanting anything to do with anyone at this point- we generally ship him with Bennet during the Company years. With Peter- I like Plaude, but it isn't really realistic, especially not as a full 'ship. Just sex I might be able to see; they only really work AU. Fandom's kinda turned their relationship into too many weird knots to count by now: fun to play with, but far from canon.

If you're uncomfortable, just tell the mod. And if it was the one playing Claire then I can probably tell her tonight in person (crazy coincidence there) if you'd rather not post anything.
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 15th, 2007 08:57 pm (UTC)
already handled, but thanks for offering to help :)


as it is I'm trying to keep this as cannon as possible.
runningondreams
Apr. 15th, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
sure thing *grin*

And that's perfectly understandable, I'm usually well on that path too, but the manipulations of writing something that could be but isn't canon is really appealing for some reason. And with my RP characters I'm not really sure how canon I can be- there's not much known about either. xP
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 16th, 2007 10:16 am (UTC)
Yeah... I know what you mean about not having much to go on... kinda why my fics turned out the way they did (and that's not counting the blatantly AU mild smut I wrote {or even the really graphic one that I typed up but never published}). I started writing the bulk of my stories before we got what info we have now on Claude. As it is, I already had to redo a volume one... now it's looking like, as much as I don't want to, that I'm either gonna have to start from scratch or tear a page out of Dallas' book of tricks if I'm gonna keep that end of things anywhere near cannon.
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 16th, 2007 02:27 pm (UTC)
The problem with Heroes is that there aren't a lot of really likable female characters to 'ship the pretty boys with.

No kidding.. there was that kinda plain grease-monkey woman with super hearing and Sylar killed her...and Charlie, but she had an anyerism and Sylar killed her too... Eden, another Sylar victim... Gotta wonder, does Kring have something against women? I don't count Claire, as she's underage... and Niki is sooo messed up...
And poor Simone got shot, by Isaac... Y'know, I can see your point... not enough girls!
bigbadwolfeboro
May. 2nd, 2007 01:27 pm (UTC)
The problem with Heroes is that there aren't a lot of really likable female characters to 'ship the pretty boys with.


And this is usually what prompts me to create my own characters for fics (and not just in Heroes), though I hate like hell when they start to go Mary Sue on me.
bigbadwolfeboro
Sep. 17th, 2007 12:45 am (UTC)
5 months later
Do you really feel like we're pressureing you?

Not you in that we... FP and a bunch of others... I had thought it was just others but now FP is on that list as well. Why is it you were so compassionate 5 months ago and reasonable and FP isn't now?
cold_queen_5
Apr. 16th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
...er...
I ship Claire/Claude.

I call it Clairde.





















Just Kidding...but wouldn't it be awesome? HE COULD TEACH HER THINGS!!!
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 16th, 2007 03:46 am (UTC)
Re: ...er...
well you wouldn't be the first to have an odd ship for Claire... I've seen folks shiper her with Sylar and Peter (and this was even after Peter was revealed as her uncle!)

and I think there's a few holding out that Claude may be her dad... even though they showed it was Nathan onscreen.


Nah, this didn't have anything to do with you... mostly stuff going on elsewhere and it's been handled : )

Like I said, dream your own dreams, as I will certainly dream my own.
joanne_c
Apr. 21st, 2007 10:41 am (UTC)
Just as a couple of data points (am catching up after being away for a few days).

Many people into slash are both female and het, in fact it could be the majority still (it did used to be but online that may have changed). It's a women's genre, if for no other reason than one good looking guy is good, two good looking guys with actual chemistry is better (hence why I personally like Jack/Jack and Jack/Nine more than Jack/Ianto - I'm waiting to see how Jack/Ten is before I decide if I like them).

Slash does seem to overrun het a lot, but there are places. hetfic is a good multi-fandom het community.
bigbadwolfeboro
Apr. 21st, 2007 02:09 pm (UTC)
not looking for a fic com...
this was no reflection on the fic comunities... Like I said I think it's great they're out there... I'm sure it makes it way easier to find what one is looking for... what had prompetd me to post this (and has already been dealt with) was some Hreoes shipping that looked like it was gonna drift into the RPG I'd just signed up for. Now while the players saying "Oh I'm into that" etc was just fine for discussion, when one of the mods mistaken thought I had said I approved and jumped in with commenting (erroneously)I started to feel pushed. I'm not looking for a new fic com, but when it's stated in the rules for an RPG that shipping will NOT be forced and that one shouldn't have one's friends join just for OTP shipping, I was, admittedly a bit upset. It was a case of one mod getting confused and then giving mistaken info to the other. Like I said, it's been handled and misinformation has been corrected. If you want more detail as to the whole ship nature whatever I can tell you but it's a dead issue now.


as for hetfic, I write my own but rarely post it...
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